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Hey Bart, this is stunning man. I feel like I should try and be super-critical just because of the name. I don't think you need to do anything more but I wonder how a little highlight just on the top right edge of the black c might look. I love it. Avenir is the king.

Very cool! Added to my favs.

At first I thought this was a Raja creation. Way to break out of your style, Bartster!! Wish I could do that more. :-) This one came out great!

Really great work Bart!

Thanks for the compliments guys. I am very proud of this one.*@ Dale, I tried that somewhat in the beginning, it did not seem to look right.*@ Alto, thanks man.*@ Doc, HAHA, When I grow up I want to be just like Raja and you!*@ Art, Thanks a bunch.*@ Smartinup, well...... you will have to wait and see. %3B)

This is great. Love the type too, Bart.

Very pretty Bart and nice execution.

Really a nice image Bart!

Thanks Train Guys!!!! LOL :)

I have seen this style of logo and this type treatment before%3B I question its reason for being in the gallery. Nothing against the work itself.

Dache... if you have a problem with David's choices for the gallery, take it up with him. Very professional of you to challenge his rationale within the logo comments section of the site rather than the forums.

No problem at all, just wondering. Dont take it badly :%5E)

@ dache: Is the logo good enough for the gallery? If so, what does it even matter? While you say you've seen this 'style' of logo before, it's not a common 'style' in Bart's showcase. So, in my opinion, a well deserved gallery feature to show the designer's true capabilitites as a logo designer. Honestly, from my perspective, it sounds like someone is jealous...or bitter. But that's just my perspective. What do I know?%0D*%0D*HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!%0D*%0D*

Yes, I think it should be in the gallery but that is a personal opinion. It is the constantly evolving platform of assessment per member which I question.*Your analysis of the question is incorrect and out of line.

Allot of the guys on this site can give criticism well %26 receive criticism well...You Dache, can give criticism well, but receive it well? Nope...**What does %26 doesn't get added to the gallery is completely out of Bart's hands...**I'd add this logo to the gallery.

Welcome to the clique Hayes :%5E)

Yeah, no worries man :) Merry Xmas!!

Bart this is very cool and who really cares if it works on faxes or not.

sigh...you see someone post some aggressive %26 condescending statements, you try to back their 'better' statements, you try to compliment their work, but it's not until you confront them directly (in a negative way) before they give you they give you time of day...**Now they go red flag design work that gets mixed reviews, so nobody else can comment on it...**What is your angle Dache?**Is it fear, egotism, or someting else?

Hayes,your playing right into his hands.

Seriously guys, grow up.

Yea, Brian's right. No more arguing. My apologies, Dache. Glad this made it to the gallery, Bart.%0D*%0D*Cheer's everyone!!

Yea come on everyone. 'Tis the season to be jolly!

@brandsimplisity, you know what, I think you're right...it ain't worth it

How does this logo work on white?

@MikePearce,*Any decent designer can look at this and see that it will work just as well on a %22white%22 background as it does here, In fact any decent designer can look at a well designed logo on a dark background and figure out how it can be reversed and work just as well. There is not a set standard on the way a logo should presented, the standard is that it should work both ways. While it is true that most printed published works of logos are on white, this is the internet and we are dealing with translucent light, so why not get the most out of a presentation, to each their own.

So is it fair to imply you're saying I'm not a %22decent%22 designer then? this site has more beef than an Arbys. geek rage

Yikes! Logomotive, simmer down buddy, it was a simple question. Why not let the author of the logo answer it?

@ MikePearce : Lol!! It sounds like logomotive is implying that you are a 'decent' designer (for lack of better words) and should be able to imagine what this logo would look like on a white background.**Even so, if the brand/identity calls for a black background, what should it matter? It's part of the brand, therefore, a part of the presentation. Just my two cents. :-)

@ Mike it was a general statement as stated in my other post. I can see that you are above decent,sorry if you felt I was directing at you. No tone of voice and it was just a simple answer. I'm spontaneous sometimes.

@ MikePearce, works just fine. You need not worry about these things. :) To everything there is a purpose, some of which not everyone will understand. Now please take your comments somewhere else, say the forums? That is what they are for if I am not mistaken. :)**@ Doc Oc, Logomotive, BPotstra, thanks for all of the comments.**No need to let this get out of hand in here. Not saying that it did. However, I am tired of reading everyone else's little unimportant comments on EVERYONE's work. Not just my own.**This site was built to be a showcase of work. Not a showcase of ignorance in the field of art or design.

yes i agree with Bart.. my congratulations on this wonderful logo bub...**So how does it look on green %3B)

Yeah Bart I agree too, sometimes our ego's get out of hand...**It is a great logo, congrats :)

Hayes.. thanks man. The above was not directed in anyone in particular. Just me venting in MY OWN posting in MY OWN USER GALLERY, not someone elses.

This logo sucks and you are all crazy ego maniacs!!!!

JUST KIDDING! I thought I would drop a silly line to show you all how funny this all is.**Nice logo Bart.**@ OC: this is totally different then most of Bart's work and I really appreciate the fact that this site notices each individual arist and thier styles.**I love it!

@ ahab : My point exactly. Cheers!!**%3C----Biggest EGO of them all. :-P

Excellent work Bart! Love it. Very unique. I wouldn't change a thing.*Looks great just like it is. Keep up the great work man.

Thanks MoonBox! I appreciate it. Nice showcase BTW.

%22Honestly, from my perspective, it sounds like someone is jealous...or bitter. But that's just my perspective. What do I know?%22**A lot!**Awesome logo Bart.

HAHA!! Cheers!!

Selected for LogoLounge Volume 5!

hey that is great news, and well deserved!

I love the mark. Excellent work Bart.